Gutwrench1, What is your real name and what is your wrestling background? You have me at a disadvantage. In another post you criticized a call I made, I was wondering who you are because you made it sound like you know me. I will admit I am not the end all be all of wrestling officials. I do strive to be the best official I can be. That is why I travelled all over the U. S. working as many Greco-Roman/Freestyle matches I could. I did this all on my own paying my own way for almost 15 years. During my travels I tried to learn from every official I worked with and tried to learn something everytime I stepped on the mat. Since you seem to have a lot of ways to improve wrestling officiating in our great state why don't you put on an officials clinic. The KWOA has one in November and Craig Ewert and Carl Owczarzak put one on in November also in the Overland Park Area. Contact these guys and see if we can all learn from your vast knowledge. How long have you been an official? Are you a registered official here in Kansas? Have you been an official anywhere else? Are you wanting to be an official here in Kansas? I tell you what Gutwrench1 if you give me your name and other personal info like address and phone number I will pay for your registration dues to the KSHSAA for you to be a referee this year. I am sure there are a bunch of officials besides myself who would love to be taught by someone as knowledgable as you on how to become better officials. I became an official because I loved this sport and wanted to give something back. I also want to be the best official I can be, but I know I do make mistakes. I try to learn from them so I can improve as an official. I learned at a young age anyone can point out what needs to be fixed, it takes someone special to try and fix the problem to make things better. So if you do not like how wrestling is being officiated here in Kansas become a referee. By the way the comment you made to ACBulldog about showing us a good KS Referee, I feel you owe an apology to Eldon Zimblemon. That man did more for Kansas referees than you will ever know. He has forgot more about wrestling than what you will ever learn. I am anxiously waiting your reply