Ah, I touched on a sore spot for some of you. The truth hurts. You don't seem to want any criticism on this board. Criticism is meant to provoke change. I never mentioned any refs by name in this post other than Anderson who was mentioned by someone else and I complimented what I've seen of him. But, I'm very glad to see that some of you cheese-eaters took the bait and jumped on here to show your ignorance. You are partially responsible for fostering the unique KS style of wrestling characterized by a lack of offense. Plain and simple you're doing your sport a disservice because offense is what people come to see. If you want to promote your sport and get more spectators than a high school girls volleyball game, then stop doing what you're doing. Being offensive-minded is behind most of the rule changes in wrestling. Do you see how they're promoting RPW (Real Pro Wrestling)? It's loaded with offense and will be thrilling to watch. You need to get off the board and out to a good college match and to see how quickly refs throw stalling calls around and how often they tell the wrestlers that they want action. Do that and learn how to call control in some of the scramble positions. One new rule in college is that you only have to have one foot in bounds to score. Why? To open up opportunity for offense and create more scrambles on the edge of the mat. Glad you boys are defending your sport and your State, that's mighty noble of you. You sure told me and I'm devastated. Now be men. Thicken your skin and admit that KS needs to change to a more attacking, offensive-minded style that people want to see and are seeing in other states. You don't need a pity party or a hissy fit because someone challenged you with an opposing point of view. Cowboy up!