oh yeah. mr. white I don't know if you know this but what was the name of the kid that weishaar lost too. saying that he was a .500 or sub .500 wrestler doesn't really say much except that. and i would say that based on his record alone that weishaar is in the top 5 at 71 in 4a eventhough I haven't seen him wrestle yet since he wasn't at the lake last saturday.