Wrestling fan I think you either misunderstood Big Green's message or don't understand the situation. Ark City now has two wrestling clubs: The Ark City Takedown Club (which is the original club that has been around for years) and a new club called the AC Heat. As I understood Big Green's comments he/she was simply saying people from the AC Heat shouldn't be telling everyone they left the Ark City Takedown Club b/c the Ark City Takedown Club doesn't know what they are doing. He then cites the fact that most of the coaches from the Ark City Takedown Club were champions (or at least wrestlers) with Ark City High School, which is a very respected program. I don't think anything Big Green said should be taken to conclude that the Ark City Take Down Club condones cheap shots. His point (as I understand it) was that cheap shots could ruin the sport of wrestling and that any club (be it AC Heat or whoever) is preaching that then they need to stop. This is a point that I feel cannot be made strongly enough - thus my reply. (And by the way if I am right and you simply misunderstood then you do have the ability to either edit or delete your previous post)