Brandon Vogel is Jerrod Vogel's older brother. Brandon was in the SigEp fraternity at WSU with me, so Jerrod Vogel and Kenny Brown use to play poker and drink with use quite frequently....after they dropped out of seminary school. I knew neither one of them would become priests.

Blake Seiler has an older brother named Adam Seiler whom was in the SigEp fraternity with me, too. So Carrol wrestling was quite the topic of discussion. However, Marcus Barber was a Sigep, too, and he represented the great program David Nigg has built and Mike Church Jr. is leading into the next couple of generations.