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Your School's all-time all-star team #80068 12/21/05 02:13 PM
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The gwal all-star team and south's list got me thinking. If I could make a all-star team out of the entire history of Bishop Carroll who would be on it. Some teams will have too many and may need to create two teams, but this could be interesting.

Here are the rules.
1) Use today's weight classes- so you might have to adjust
2) For flexibility you can use any weight they wrestled in high school (not just their senior year) at which they medalled at state.
3) You can move them up one weight class, but not down.
4) Please list qualifications to justify your choice.
5) Try not to use current wrestlers, unless thier resume is so outstanding you can't avoid it.


Jamie Finkeldei

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Here is Bishop Carroll's (in my humble opinion)

103 - JD Johnson (97-00) 2nd,6th, 5th, 2nd - Collegiate all-american
112 - Robin Blasi (77-80) 4th, 2nd, 1st
119 - David Ray (79-80) 1st, 1st -Collegiate All-American - college coach
125 - Eric Hanna (95-98)4th, 5th, 1st
130 - Mark Kerschen (91-94) 2nd, 3rd, 1st, 3rd
135 - Mark Dugan (99-02) 4th, 1st, 1st - Collegiate all-american
140 - Jared Vogel (99-02) 6th, 2nd, 2nd, 1st - 3rd at Senior Nationals
145 - Patrick Giangrosso (97-98) 3rd, 1st - Collegiate all-American
152 - Adam Brandes (94-97) 2nd, 2nd
160 - Marcus Mainz (89-92) 4th, 3rd, 2nd - 6th at Senior Nationals, 2x Collegiate All-American
171 - Rick Seiler (73-77) 1st,1st
189 - Josh Maze (96-99) 6th, 3rd, 1st, 1st
215 - Blake Seiler (99-02)2nd, 1st - 4th at Senior Nationals
275 - Ryan Sposnel (02-05)3rd, 1st, 1st


Jamie Finkeldei

"It is better to light one small candle than to curse the darkness." John Milton
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WOW! I didn't know Marcus Mainz never won state in highschool. I would have never guessed that, that dude was tuff!

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Here is an all-star team for West High School. I only included wrestlers that I had the fortune of coaching. Obviously, there are other good wrestlers from West High like Tristen Deshazer, Joe Smith, Henry Figures, Bobby Wiley, Jim Hambleton, etc. but since I didn't coach them I did not include their names.

103-Paul Myers, (1994) St Champ, on West's 1994 state championship team, never wrestled before high school
112-Tony Trevino, (2001) St Champ, pinned his way through regionals and state culminating with a pin over Sequoyia Hill, on 2001 state championship team, never wrestled before high school
119-Michael Bradley, (1999-2001) 2X state champ, beat Shawn Bunch at least 4 times that I remember, on 2001 state championship team, one of the top 3 wrestlers that I ever coached.
125-Danny Deshazer, (1988,89) 2X state champ, undefeated his senior year. My 1st state champ, so he holds a special place in my heart.
130-Maurice Gatewood, (1989) 1X state champ, I think he would have won also as a senior but was injured, pulled one of the biggest upsets I ever saw when he beat Landon Richardson from KC Sclagle.
135-J.R. Phillips (2001) St Champ, took down Zach Roberson at the state tournament when he was a sophomore, on 2001 St Championship team.
140-Kenny Taylor (1995,96) 2X St Champ, one of the three best wrestlers I ever coached, on 94 St Championship team.
145-Thomas Rhodes (2000) St Champ, on 2001 St Championship team.
152-Don Boone (1995) St Champ, also 96 at Valley Center, on 94 St Championship team, never wrestled before high school.
160-Gaylen Taylor (1997) St Champ
171-Earl Henry (1996,97) 2X runnerup to Scott Coleman, probably would of won it in any other years, but Coleman was an animal, never wrestled before high school
189-Tim Samilton (1996) St Champ
215-Nathan Bumphus (1996) St Champ, pinned his way through the state tournament, never wrestled before high school
275-Jerry Corner (1993,94) 2X St Champ, on 94 St Championship team, one of the three best wrestlers I ever coached, never wrestled before high school
Other wrestlers who deserve mention include Charles Knox, Joe Cornejo, Bryant Richard, Marcus Samilton, BL Chadwick, Mark Holley, Darren Moses, Delvon & Steffon Staley, Derrick Jackson, Jesse Guerrero and Todd Sanchez.

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The most amazing thing about your list is the number of kids that never wrestled before HS. How'd they get soooooo gooooood so faaaassssssssst? Amazing.


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Coach Watkins - Who would win between the 1989 Danny Desahzer at 125 and the 2005 Tristen Deshazer? Would Tristen pin Danny with a headlock or would Danny shoot a single on Tristen to win?

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Or, here is another thought - who wins a current, live, real-time match - Danny or Tristen? Just curious.


D. Dean Welsh, Junction City
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Here is a list for Newton High School. I didn't write anything about college accomplishments because I don't know all of them.

103 - Al Martinez 3-time Grand Champion
112 - Mike Metzler 2-time Champion
119 - Luke Metzler 3-time Champion
125 - Herbert Tolbert 2-time Champion
130 - Mike Garcia 2-time Champion
135 - Don Thaw 2-time Champion
140 - J.J. Thaw 1-time Champion
145 - Justin Thaw 2-time Champion, National Champ
152 - Mike Adams 2-time Champion
160 - Vincent Walker 2-time Champion
171 - Brad Wilson 2-time Champion
189 - Charles Toedman 1-time Grand Champion
215 - Dennis Walker 2-time Champion
275 - Mike Miller 1-time Champion

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Dwelsh, Watkins is a great coach and teacher of wrestling that is how those kids improved so rapidly. However, if you take a look at the list of South High State Champions (Some 40 of them), only a hand full had prior wrestling experience before High School. Simply put: "Coach David Nigg is the greatest GWAL coach of all time." I haven't even included the 100 something state placers. How this coach never won a team title befuddles me to this day. Anyhow, since were on the discussion of great teams, I would pay good money to see this South team square off against Coach Watkins All-Time Greats. For those who don't remember there was a time when South/West duals filled the gyms. I can hear em now: "Ahhh Shucky Ducky!"
With the help of Richard Salyer I have now compiled this team:
103 - John Dao (I believe he beat Meyers everytime)
112 - Brian Scott (Tony Trevino??? Come on now)
119 - Ronnie Bainum (4x GWAL Champion 4x State Placer)
125 - Tony Dykstra (3x State Champion)
130 - Tico White (State Champion)
135 - Mike Church (State Champion)
140 - Danny Fox (4x GWAL Champion 2x State Champion)
145 - Brandon Calvin (State Champion)
152 - Jared Byrne (Byrne v. Boone, great matches!)
160 - Doug Smith (State Champion)
171 - Clint White (2x State Runner-Up)
189 - Joe Nelson (2x State Champion)
215 - Casey Rhinehart (Rematch! Lucky cradle!)
HWT - Lance Nelson (2x State Champion, Corner was a bad bad dude!)

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lets get an Ark City lineup - OH MY!!!!


"Stats are for losers. Final scores are for winners." Bill Belicheck
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Alright, a quick (real quick) lineup for Ark City:

103 Scotty Goodale 3x
112 Travis Vandever 3x
119 Jim Ramirez (way back) 3x
125 Devin Bahm 4x
130 Matt Hernandez 2x
135 Allen Hankins 3x
140 Justin Ware 4x
145 Jereme Hernandez 2x
152 Chad Beeson 3x
160 Chris Hernandez 3x
171 Cody Richardson 2x
189 Chris Calder 1x (?)
215 Ty Richardson 2x
HWT Les Miller 1x


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Here's what I got for Clearwater. Nothing to terribly impressive, basically the 93 state championship team.

103: Michael Pelz, only placed once but won it as a senior giving Earl Jones several losses. To small for even 103 his freshman through junior year. (1997-2000)
112: Steve Rooney, 3rd, 2nd (1991-1994)
119: Brian Robinson, two time finalist, won it his junior year. (1981-1984)
125: Clint Luckner, 4th (1995-1998)
130: Scott Nienke, 2nd, 4th, suspended senior season week of regionals ranked 1st (1990-1993)
135: Josh Riley, 6th (1996-1999)
140: Hunter McMillen, 2nd, 2nd (1990-1993)
145: Wade Finney, 5th, 5th (1992-1995)
152: Lonnie Finney II, Clearwaters first state champ (1969-1972)
160: Jeff Long, 1st (1990-1993)
171: Lonnie Finney III, 4th, dq'd season year in semi's at state senior year (1990-1993)
189: Todd Sigwing, 2nd (1990-1993)
215: J.J. Finney, 4th, 1st, 1st, 1 lost junior and senior years from being dq'd for illegal slam. (1983-1986)
275: Justin Waymire, 3rd, 1st (1991-1994)


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I think my first high school state tournament i went to was when one of the Finney's was beaten and went crazy on the mat. He flipped off the crowd and shoved a ref. it is a blurry memory but one that I have in my head. i might be off on the facts though? sorry if I am.


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Hey Coach Napier (Todd or Eric), jot a quick lineup down for Columbus...I would but I have been away for so long I know I would leave somebody out.


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Quote:
Originally posted by mchurchJR.:
I think my first high school state tournament i went to was when one of the Finney's was beaten and went crazy on the mat. He flipped off the crowd and shoved a ref. it is a blurry memory but one that I have in my head. i might be off on the facts though? sorry if I am.
That would be Lonnie Finney III. There was a little taunting going on before the match and it continued after the match Lonnie doesn't have the best temper in the world. He started walking towards his opponent and the ref jumped in his was way, but Lonnie didn't stop and kept walking through the ref. He didn't really push the ref at all he just didn't stop when the ref wanted him too. Then he got dq'd, his dad came out of the stands, and for lack of better terminology, all hell broke loose.

The really crazy thing about that was it was the year Clearwater won the state title. Their 2 best wrestlers, Lonnie Finney III and Scott Nienke, didn't score any team points for them, and they still walked away with the title. Lonnie after losing that match would very likely have taken 3rd, and Nienke dominated the guy that ended up winning his weight class.


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Here is my all-star team for Concordia. I hope I don't make any one mad. Weight, Name, Years, Placings, Career record

103 Tony Dong (1988-89) 2nd, 1st; career 53-1 Tony only wrestled 2 years varsity as he was too small. D-I qualifier
112 Chris Ngo (92-95) 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st; career 118-1
119 3-way tie Steve Shanks (94-97) 1st, 3rd; career 101-19 / Dickie James (95-97) 5th, 6th, 3rd; career 100-17 / Jason Dutton (90-93) 6th, 2nd; career 89-22-2
125 Dave Canfield (85-88) 1st,1st,2nd,1st; career 115-5
130 Jonathan Dong (88-91) 1st,1st,2nd,1st; career 110-6
135 Brandon Mauch (89-92) 4th,3rd; career 99-20
140 Jared Wisdom (93-96) 4th,4th,2nd; career 110-33
145 Wes Fleming (02-05) 3rd,4th; career 118-51
152 Nick Budreau (80-83) 3rd, 1st; career 77-17-2
160 John Hake (97-00) 2nd; career 95-46
171 Jim Workman (85-88) 2nd career 50-34
189 Jake Strait (00-03) 1st,1st,1st; career 108-17
215 Danny Lavoie (01-04) 6th,3rd,5th; career 108-30
275 Darrell Zimmerman (98) 1st; career 19-4 Darrell wrestled one year and was a state champ.

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That's a good list Coach Moore, I remember seeing quite a few of those guys when we wrestled Concordia. I'll really have to look back at weights and such to come up with Chapman's list.


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AC Bulldog Scott Goodale never wrestled 103. His freshman year he wrestled 112 took 3rd, then 1st at 112,119 and 125.

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AC bulldog,

Scott Goodale never wrestled 103. He place 3rd at 112 his Freshman year and took 1st at 112, 119 and 125. His freshman year Ware was at 103.

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Well, it would appear, obviously, that he tweaked the guidelines just a hair so that he could get Vandever in. I am sure the ACBD knows his AC history. I don't see a problem with it, but KSHSAA might.

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