That is quite a list and I should not say anything because they all would kick my butt. But your making it sound like I am saying there are no good wrestlers any more because there are still some highly skilled grapplers still wrestling. Like the ones you mentioned above. But there are kids now who make it to state that are first and second year wrestlers. I have looked in the state book and seen many wrestlers with loosing records. In 2005 in 4a had 4 wrestlers with loosing records. 5a there were 41 wrestlers with loosing records. 6a there were 31 wrestlers with loosing records. These are not including wrestler with 50 50 records. There are also many wrestlers with one win of 50 50.